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by cutler 1422 days ago
> PHP was really nice to get into programming and make a spaghetti website

Facebook manages quite well with PHP. Maybe it's your fault you didn't learn how to use modern PHP practices which have been well-documented for over a decade now.
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anony999 1422 days ago
>> Facebook manages quite well with PHP.

I didn't say you can't make it work. You can build great stuff using just bash scripts. I'm pretty sure you can have success with any programming language. That doesn't mean it's the "best" way to do it.

>> Maybe it's your fault you didn't learn how to use modern PHP practices which have been well-documented for over a decade now

I doubt it's my fault. I'm not "special". I think PHP is prone to bugs and bad practices both due language design and bad documentation.

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johnisgood 1420 days ago
> I doubt it's my fault. I'm not "special". I think PHP is prone to bugs and bad practices both due language design and bad documentation.

Not in 2022. I avoided PHP for a long time. I got back to it and found that the Internet and books are full of best practices and I have not had an issue with documentation either. Would you please give me an example of how PHP is more prone to bugs vs. other languages in this area? I have found it to be really difficult to write buggy and insecure code. For example if you have not heard of PDO and you do not prepare, bindValue/bindParam, and then execute, that is your fault (make use of filter_input() as well!). It is advised literally everywhere today. Regardless, my return to PHP was pleasantly surprising. I finished my project pretty quickly and I have not used any frameworks. Security vulnerabilities? Perhaps, but so far so good. We will see. I tried my best and I have done my research. Every time I mention that it is written in PHP, people frown because they are stuck at PHP 5 or so. That said, subpar defaults in php.ini is still a thing though.

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ptx 1418 days ago
Do you have any book recommendations for someone who knows web development but is new to (modern) PHP?
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artificialLimbs 1422 days ago
>>well-documented

Sources?

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cutler 1422 days ago
https://phptherightway.com
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