[svachalek]

I don't think anyone fully has their head around wave-particle duality. There are many different interpretations and as I understand it none of them (or none of the major ones) are even falsifiable.

My gut says though, that the main problem is probably thinking it is ever possible to be outside the experiment.

[tasty_freeze]

> I don't think anyone fully has their head around wave-particle duality.

Other than taking enough physics to get a EE degree, I don't know physics. One explanation I've heard from a physicist appeals to me. He said something like:

All the confusion about wave/particle duality is because we explain physics in terms of intuitions we have in our daily lives. Sometimes the analogy that is most convenient is to use a wave metaphor, and sometimes the best analogy is to use a particle metaphor ... but in both cases it is neither particle nor wave.

[jessermeyer]

I believe that is called super-determinism, but would welcome correction or refinement.

[UncleOxidant]

I believe you're right: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnKzt6Xq-w4

[joe-collins]

I'm at the same level of partial knowledge where I agree with you. My understanding is that everything in the universe interferes with everything else, but we assume, with some justification and empirical success, that the impact of sufficiently distant or indirect effects is negligible. That's demonstrably close to true for systems of a certain small size or complexity, but it doesn't seem remarkable to me that the assumption might fall apart with a wider perspective.

[nh23423fefe]

Can you explain what you mean?

When I think of wave-particle duality, I think its just the expression of 2 facts. Matter waves show interference effects. Matter waves are only ever observed in a definite position, never in a superposition.

But position isnt special right? We never observe a superposition of momentum (move at 2 speeds) either. And neither are macroscopic states, we never observed an (1/sqrt(2))(alive + dead) cat either.

So evolution isn't observation and intermediate states aren't real.

[akomtu]

MWI and pilot-wave are decent explanations. The effect, by itself, isn't mind bending; its verification is.