[dosethree]

Maybe its just my team, but dev's dont need to know k8s. It certainly doesn't hurt, but they should be able to write code and get their jobs done without knowing much about k8s at all. Basic shit like how to get logs, but thats a given for all platforms

[0xbadcafebee]

> but dev's dont need to know k8s

If somebody else on the team already knows k8s. The problem is a lot of places just give devs admin access and let them go hog wild. If devs don't know k8s they can't make significant changes without waiting for the one guy who knows k8s to do it.

Give a man a k8s, he will deploy for a day. Teach a man to k8s, he will deploy for at least 5 years while the hype cycle continues.

[afarrell]

But can your team succeed without having people who:

1. Are motivated by the sort of curiosity that would frustrate them if they were blocked from knowing about k8s

2. Are motivated by the sense of responsibility that would unnerve them if they didn't understand 1 abstraction layer beneath their work.

?

[rekrsiv]

You don't need to solve this problem if k8s already works for you.