[vkk8]

This is a bit crude way to put it, but maybe you're right.

At least for me, becoming a father changed my perspective on everything so much that it's almost like I'm not even the same species anymore as I was before having them. Sometimes people without children feel like they're not even proper adults even if they are older and/or more senior at work or whatever.

[lampshades]

Spot on, I’m so different now than I was then I disregard anything anyone without kids says.

> Sometimes people without children feel like they're not even proper adults

I feel like they’re not real adults too.

[ska]

> I feel like they’re not real adults too.

FWIW, This doesn't sound like a healthy place for you to be.

Childless people giving parenting advice to people with children is on average going to be just as off target as most times where humans try to give advice without any personal lived experience. It doesn't indicate anything else though, prima facie.

[icebergonfire]

> Spot on, I’m so different now than I was then I disregard anything anyone without kids says.

I would posit this is universally correct. Us not-parents can "believe" we can accurately imagine what you go through or what we would do in your place. Theoretically speaking, the theory matches reality :)

Yet imagining is literally not enough! People without children do not viscerally know what it is to parent, 24/7 for the rest of your days for the foreseeable future. How the accumulated indescribable-joy and the mounting exhaustion that you simultaneously carry influences slash impacts your decision-making and relentlessly molds the options you'll choose to make for the rest of your life.

Good luck explaining how different this parenting experience can be for every person and child, even within the same family in the same environment two children can be polar opposites with no obvious reason other than "life finds a way".

> I feel like they’re not real adults too.

I say this with all my empathy: the fact that for you parenting is such a core part of the adult experience is not only correct but beautiful, and anybody who tries to invalidate that is extremely wrong.

That said, there is another layer of unkindness in your position that you must unpack yourself, if you wish to have adult-level relationships with people with a different set of adult-core concepts.

[wiseowise]

Seek therapy now.

[amrocha]

I guess to convince yourself you didn't make a bad decision with long-term consequences you have to demonize anyone that disagrees with you