[colomon]

Nothing against the Asahi team, it sounds like they're doing fantastic work. But I'm a little surprised at the talk (which I've seen before) which indicates theirs is the first approach allowing you to use Linux on ARM Macs. A few months ago I used UTM Virtual Machines (which itself uses QEMU) to get ARM Linux up and running on my M1 Mini, and it worked brilliantly. Admittedly I only use the command line interface for working on Linux -- maybe the GUI is lacking? -- but I effortlessly got G++, Perl 5, and Raku working on it, and used that to get a full build of my $work up and running. It was actually easier than getting the same setup working on the MacOS side of things, with great performance.

[saghul]

That's not comparable. Asahi is about running natively on the hardware.

[Twisell]

I guess working on bare metal was implied. Virtualization have always been useful but it's another use case. Asahi enable user to bypass MacOS entirely which I guess is the only satisfying way to use apple silicone for Linus Torvalds.

[tekknik]

What would happen in Linus decided he likes MacOS better? He’s kinda stuck at this point no?

[capableweb]

Why would he be stuck? Many people are pragmatists over purists, wouldn't be far out if Linus was as well. I've written many tools myself that were better than anything I could find, but at a later point I found a "competitor" that did something better than me, and subsequently dumped my tool in favor of the better one. I for one don't care who writes the software, if it's better it's better.

[mattl]

They have desktop Linux running, not only the command line. Apple has also been making changes to help Asahi.