[otikik]

Science keeps advancing. We used to think that the Sun went around Earth, and it was a God (Ra, Helios). Then Science came and put the Sun in its current place. We used to think that illness was produced by demons. And then we discovered the microscope, germs and vaccines.

Science keeps taking over more and more of what used to be “attributed to the gods”. Religion keeps losing ground. It’s only natural that religious people feel the need to attack (with logic platitudes- science has never claimed to be able to explain everything)

There will always be people who say that the gods talk to them. It’s a trick as old as the world. A way to gain power, notoriety, or a sense of importance.

The way I see it, when someone makes a discovery in a laboratory (a real discovery, the kind that takes years to produce) then that’s a real manifestation of the Universe understanding itself.

[PhantomBKB]

You are right about religion, but what I am talking about is spirituality. Here's the definition for better clarity: the quality of being concerned with the human spirit or soul as opposed to material or physical things.

Modern science stays away from this space for whatever reason, but isn't this just another kind of science like the study of cosmos or microbes? It is a very important facet of life, which dwells into questions such as the meaning of life, what happens after death, when does life enter into a mother's womb, etc. All these questions are of scientific nature.

However, to address these questions we cannot simply break open or dissect things to understand how they work. Naturally, because these questions do not deal with the material world. To understand such phenomenon, one should first understand the subtlety of the soul.

The breathing techniques or pranayama that this thread was originally about deals with yoga. Pranayama is a part of yogic teachings. Yoga is a sanskrit word which means the union of mind and body. The union that the word yoga is referring to is that of uniting individual consciousness (our individual experience of reality) with Divine consciousness (the essence of truth as perceived when we quiet our five senses and reconnect with the Supreme Self within)[1].

So it's not just breathing, or stretching your muscles as it is usually portrayed as. There's a far deeper subtlety in it which is better kept undisturbed from experimentation without having knowledge of the subtler entities.

> ...when someone makes a discovery in a laboratory (a real discovery, the kind that takes years to produce) then that’s a real manifestation of the Universe understanding itself.

That's true as well, but there are yet discoveries to be made by understanding the nature of the "self". Something that involves looking within rather than outside in the material world.

[1]: https://www.yogapedia.com/what-is-the-true-meaning-of-yoga/2...