[laughinghan]

I'm sorry, but you don't seem to realize that going with Flash instead of the "pedantic and hyper-technical people" was a deal with the devil. In the short term, you got to do some cool stuff, but in the long term, only open standards will ever truly make progress.

[nascentone]

I knew exactly what I was doing with Flash, it was not a deal with anyone. I desperately want to do cool stuff with standards, believe me I'm in some ways I want good standards more than self-proclaimed standards advocates (I've even drafted my own additions and changes to standards technology, and always worked to make my SWFs as well integrated with the standard as possible.)

And the thing that amazes me is the fact that when it comes to longevity, Flash has nothing to apologize for. I can view Flash 3 SWFs and they look exactly how I made them. HTML sites break and blow up in spectacular fashion within months sometimes. A new browser comes out and now your beautiful website looks like trash because something isn't rendered the same. Not always, but more often than I want to deal with (which would be never), and I never once had that problem with Flash.

[cellis]

Completely untrue. How do you explain Apple if that's the case?