[redact207]

I've been hiring SEs here in Australia for a few years, and finding decent graduates is hard.

Covid made this worse by pushing more people through bootcamps who did it for the tech salary rather than genuine interest, which just added to the noise.

The thing is that good developers could be anywhere. I've had great hires come through good unis with fantastic grades, as well as some who transitioned from a different industry and did a bootcamp.

Unis for a lot of industries are losing their relevance. Here in Australia they'll continue to be subsidised by internationals who get favourable visa conditions upon graduation that can be worked into a family immigration plan, but for the rest of us it's just a lot of unnecessary debt.

[finikytou]

what is the pay you offering? in most markets it is the number one problem of people finding it hard to hire. they pay bad.

[redact207]

We don't find it hard to hire in the sense that our offers are always accepted. I was moreso trying to indicate the difficulty of finding competent developers in a sea of candidates who are disinterested and lack the technical aptitude.

[finikytou]

I am totally disinterested at solving leetcode problems to get a job. If I cant solve a leetcode hard in the 15minutes given in an interview I am deemed as not competent by FAANG. Why couldn't we show our own projects and talk over the complexity behind it and what we needed to solve rather than monkey solving leetcode? I can understand why many people are disinterested.

[redact207]

We don't do leet code or coding tests. We do talk about projects they've worked on in the past - either academic, professional or personal - whichever they're most across.

Again, what I'm saying is despite all this most candidates still don't have anything they can talk about because they're disinterested in IT and doing it for a tech salary. You don't sound like you fit that profile, but most candidates that we receive wouldn't be found on HN anyway.