[bpodgursky]

I don't think we can put aside the details of whether it is true or not (it's not), because Putin has full info about the fact that it's nonsense, so it's extremely relevant to his mindset (ie, it's a fabrication aimed at a completely unrelated objective).

[ajsnigrutin]

If ukraine joined nato, do you honestly believe, that americans wouldn't install missles there, that could reach moscow?

[bpodgursky]

The US has not put any nuclear weapons (or long-range missiles) in Latvia or Estonia, which are already part of NATO and closer to Moscow... so no.

There's already a perfectly close place to put them, which the US hasn't bothered doing, because it's unnecessary.

[ajsnigrutin]

So, for example, if russia became more friendly and cooparetive with eg. Cuba, that wouldn't be problematic to USA, because proximity doesn't matter that much?

[bpodgursky]

You're shifting goalposts because you don't have any rebuttal to my point.

In the many years that Cuba was friendly and cooperative with the USSR, the US never made any more than a joke attempt at a military intervention. The US was obviously not thrilled, but never did anything comparable to the current invasion of Ukraine. Not sure your point.

[trasz]

Except destroying Cuban economy with sanctions, which continue to this day.

There is a difference though: we can’t punish US, because it’s a superpower. USSR was a superpower too. But Russia isn’t.

[bpodgursky]

Ok? Russia didn't sanction Ukraine; they invaded and have killed tens of thousands of people (so far). There's no equivalence here.

[ajsnigrutin]

I mean.. let's be honest.. if it's a cold winter this year, Russia will be punishing all of us. I live in slovenia, we're tiny, we have only a handful of soldiers, and we're still a part of occupying forces in countries like syria... so maybe we deserve it... but i prefer watching "punishments" on tv, and not by being cold and hungry in my own home, because a few politicians are in a dick-size competition, while they're stealing a bunch of our money and helping their pals in the weapons industry.

[wiseowise]

Russians should’ve tried destroying Ukraine’s economy then.

[wiseowise]

Maybe, how is that relevant to Ukraine?

[josephcsible]

Can't modern ICBMs launched from within the US already reach Moscow?

[ajsnigrutin]

yes, but it's easier to intercept them if they're launched from further away

[ptr]

Russia can’t intercept ICBMs. Distance doesn’t matter.

[wiseowise]

That’s irrelevant, Ukraine is a sovereign country and can do as it pleases.