[tjoff]

> [...] people are just not going to sign up to a future we're we use less than our parents generation.

This is why we are doomed and why a sizeable and increasing portion of our society has no hope.

[v-erne]

My thoughts also. Greed has no limits. I have lots of absurdly rich family members and friends and all they do is talk and think how to have more (I once witnessed a coversation where someone was complaining that he have to drive 2 hours to his favorite golf course while his brother takes his private helicopter and is there in 15 munutes - I kid You not!)

[thomasmg]

The problem isn't the amount of usage of electricity, the problem is CO2.

[tjoff]

They are for the most part interlinked. Even with solar. Also, we have more problems than CO2.

Buying an AC isn't climate-neutral even if electricity is free (and that is also without taking into account that "free electricity" doesn't come for free, and additionally, in time needs maintenance and replacing as well).

Producing a billion electric vehicles and enough solar to sustain them isn't either.

[freemint]

Yeah but earth overshoot day would be way later if we ran solar powered electric cars. So that's a good thing.

[tjoff]

The point was that it's not good enough.

[freemint]

I'd like to see your math on that.

[tjoff]

You said it yourself that it would just delay it...

But you think that solar panels and electric vehicles would be enough?