[neeksHN]

And you're engaging in some kind of ad-hominem fallacy -- refute the claims with facts, don't attack the messengers

[acdha]

It’s not unreasonable to point out that a particular person has a controversial history on the topic:

https://quackwatch.org/11ind/a-skeptical-look-at-kelly-victo...

It’s much easier for someone who has literally made a career of it to keep making new claims faster than other people can debunk them. The Gish Gallop is real and the assumption of good faith shouldn’t outlast the signs that this is in fact not a good faith discussion.

[neeksHN]

Noted and appreciated.

But the fact still stands that that all-cause mortality was up about 40% at the time this was recorded. (See: https://www.usmortality.com/excess-percent)

Regardless of whether it's from second-order effects created by Covid policies (e.g drug overdoses) or other unrelated causes, it's a substantial figure worth investigating.

Hopefully more reputable sources will start investigating such claims -- until then I hope people can be open-minded to the fact that "the worst person you know might have just made a good point"