[dmitriid]

> We did mention our interest in this new standard getting more momentum

You keep calling it a standard.

The "working group" is some people on Discord. Your blog post calls it "our in-browser operating system" which is a far cry from a standard. You "team up with browser vendors directly", yet not through web standards bodies, but through some "bytecode alliance" that aims to build outside the browser. Also, unsurpisingly, zero links anywhere to an actual standards text or even to a specification of these web containers.

[jrvidal]

> The "working group" is some people on Discord

Fair enough, we should correct our mention of WebDriver BiDi to "tentative standard". BTW, not sure if you hold some grudge against WebDriver BiDi in particular, we were merely saying "gee, I sure hope something better than WebDriver comes along, b/c E2E testing kinda sucks".

> Your blog post calls it "our in-browser operating system" which is a far cry from a standard. You "team up with browser vendors directly", yet not through web standards bodies, but through some "bytecode alliance" that aims to build outside the browser. Also, unsurpisingly, zero links anywhere to an actual standards text or even to a specification of these web containers.

I am not sure what your objection is. We have a product, we're describing our efforts to port it to a new browser engine.

[dmitriid]

I guess I didn't understand what exactly you were talking about when talking about "this new standard": WebDriver BiDi or WebContainers.

WebDriver BiDi is on the standards track, that's true: https://w3c.github.io/webdriver-bidi/

[jrvidal]

I see, it seems we misread each other.

[dmitriid]

Just a regular day on HN

[md224]

I think "this new standard" was referring to WebDriver BiDi, not WebContainers, so you might be misreading them.

That being said, I agree that the blog post made it sound like WebContainers is some kind of standard, and I also found that to be confusing.