[trinsic2]

Are you saying alchemy and spirituality is not as important as science? If that's the case, good luck with that view. Understanding and contemplating on both creates a Wisdom. Intelligence can only take you so far, the world is way bigger than science could ever be capable of containing.

[SantalBlush]

It was quite clear what I was saying; the study of science is better at improving our ability to see the world "as it is" than things like alchemy or prophecy, and yet Newton pursued the latter two things much more, despite being a brilliant person. In other words, there is considerable evidence that he did not see the world "as it is".

>Understanding and contemplating on both creates a Wisdom. Intelligence can only take you so far, the world is way bigger than science could ever be capable of containing.

If you believe that, say, trying to create gold by mixing crushed rubies with distilled water while Saturn is in the seventh house of the moon demonstrates that someone sees the world "as it is", then the onus is entirely on you to show that. In the meantime, I have no problem declaring you wrong. Moreover, the above comment is full of platitudes that aren't really relevant to the discussion of whether or not very smart people see the world "as it is". I'd rather not digress any further, so I won't reply again.