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by Shared404 1430 days ago
I have met people multiple times who will call someone the opposite of whatever's on their pronoun pin (if they have one)

Even to cis people.

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> their pronoun pin

That's... a new one for me. Ah, they're all over Etsy—if anyone else was thrown by that, they're exactly what your first guess would be based on the name: a big round pin with your preferred pronouns printed on it. Interesting.

> the opposite of whatever's on their pronoun pin

Well, yes, obviously? They have a pronoun pin. That's not a matter of disrespecting that person (as you note, we do it to everyone); it's a matter of disrespecting pronoun pins on principle.

"That's not a matter of disrespecting that person; it's a matter of disrespecting pronoun pins on principle."

Pardon me, but what? You expect the persons wearing the pin to not feel disrespected? Or that the pin will be emotionally damaged by the disrespect?

"Well how was I supposed to know your pronouns?"

"Well, pronoun pins are dumb"

Pick one.

Could you please specify the country, so I don't accidentally move there?
As a counterpoint, I live in Texas and I have never seen this.
It's a big place.

While I'll readily admit I don't like a lot of the political environment here, there are also a _lot_ of amazing people and places.

Thank you!
Texas unfortunately.

Doesn't happen all the time or everywhere, but I've seen people brag about doing this.

Thank you!

I find it personally helpful to get points of data like this.

Living in Switzerland, the cultural standards are sometimes astonishingly different between countries (e.g. I still regularly see job application forms that require both a headshot of the candidate and a date of birth).

Well, yeah, but that's so you don't hire someone unattractive, or worse the wrong kind of person.
Sometimes, when I can tell during a hiring process that it's just not working out, I do ask companies why they ask for a photo and a date of birth.

The answers generally are:

- "We've always done it this way" - Well sorry to hear that, but that's not a reason

- "Everybody does it this way" - Well, I'm a candidate and I can tell you that no, only 10% of companies are doing it this way

- "We want to get a first impression of the person before we invest time to look at them closer" - The first step in your application process is a 15min call with an HR person. Do you really need a step before that to reject someone based on age or ethnicity or gender?

So far, no one has reacted with any kind of understanding.