[jedberg]

Makes sense. That car is the perfect car for my family. Electric range is enough to do most of our daily errands, taking the kids to classes, etc. But the gas range is enough to take family road trips.

And in my case, it also happens to have 100% support from Openpilot, which is a requirement for me.

[selectodude]

"Specific new Toyota models are shipping with a new message authentication method that openpilot does not yet support. So far, this list includes: Toyota RAV4 Prime 2021+"

Just a heads up.

[jedberg]

Oh thanks! I hadn't checked in a while. I'm not getting a new car anytime soon anyway so hopefully they solve it before I am ready!

[syntaxing]

I mentioned it above but I doubt it, it’s been an outstanding issue for over 2 years. It’s really difficult to circumvent the encrypted ECUs

[syntaxing]

I’m honestly not sure how OpenPilot is gonna stay in business on the long run. As others has mentioned, any of the new Toyota cars are eventually going to have encrypted ECUs. Also, I paid like $1K for Ford’s lane centering and it has been amazing on highways. I can’t imagine spending $3K for a comma 3 anymore.

[jedberg]

I don't see them being in business long term either as all the cars start adopting their features. But I like the hackability. I actually run a fork right now that gives my Honda superpowers. Couldn't do that with a stock system.