[rvz]

Oh dear. It's getting really hard for anyone to defend this contraption. Perhaps that explains the silence from the Tesla autopilot crowd shocked by the news of this yet another collision from an unsafe piece of 'safety critical' software.

Both Autopilot and FSD (Fools Self Driving) needs to be investigated urgently.

[joezydeco]

The silence is confidence from the Tesla crowd that these are necessary sacrifices to perfect FSD and achieve the dream.

That was a literal quote from one owner, to me, in a previous thread here on HN.

[juunpp]

You might have triggered a fanboy.

Sadly, there is no accountability for the company.

[ncmncm]

Sacrificing themselves, OK. That motorcyclist did not volunteer.

[mwint]

The "silence from the Tesla autopilot crowd" may be related to the fact that Tesla accident stories tend to be quietly corrected three months later. For example "Self-Driving Tesla runs into tree, kills occupants" turns into "Guy shows off and floors car into tree, car obeys"

[93po]

Or that these stories are boring, repetitive, and insignificant. I'm sure a Honda Civic on cruise control killed a motorcyclist today - where's the outrage and headlines articles on that? People are equally responsible for the car on FSD as they are for a car on cruise control.

[shepherdjerred]

Is there a study or article somewhere that shows that Teslas are statistically more unsafe than human drivers? I’ve heard plenty of anecdotes but I don’t recall any hard evidence.

[ncmncm]

We should be demanding hard evidence before turning it on.

[influxmoment]

So we ban all drivers assistance so it can't be misused? What's your point?

[rvz]

No one said 'ban'.

Perhaps Tesla should have a proper driver monitoring system to determine that the driver has their eyes on the road at all times whilst having autopilot or FSD when driving?

In the article: [0]

> "Just because your vehicle may be equipped with driver-assisted settings or auto-pilot features, all the vehicles still require the operator of that vehicle to still be attentive and still be watching the road,"

So it's really no surprise why they are getting lots of investigations by regulators over their contraption.

[93po]

>So it's really no surprise why they are getting lots of investigations by regulators over their contraption.

There's only one investigation, not lots. And they're only investigating whether FSD is "exacerbating human factors or behavioral safety risks by undermining the effectiveness of the driver’s supervision". They aren't even saying FSD is bad, or should be recalled. They're only saying that it needs to not alleviate the driver from their responsibility to watch the road, and they haven't even determined if that's the case.

[influxmoment]

> Perhaps Tesla should have a proper driver monitoring system

The car will constantly alert you if you do not move the wheel and then stop the vehicle if you don't respond. Your comments are more concerned trolling then anything meaning that'll help people