[elchangri]

Maybe you missed the part where the borders of virtually every muslim country were drawn by the west? The idea that “everyone should go back to their homeland” is laughable coming from the west… What the hell were they doing for centuries on foreign land? Ruining entire civilizations, decimating their peoples, pillaging their lands? Sending them back to the stone age? To then be offended at home by a headscarf?

Sure, if you’re Shia you could go to Lebanon, Irak, Iran… or, you could go somewhere safe.

[jelliclesfarm]

Sorry. I did miss the point. What is it?

[elchangri]

The point is none of what you brought forward supports any of your points

[jelliclesfarm]

Ahh. Ok. I was speaking that as a person of faith, my faith is more important than fighting politics of the majority. I walk away because the space and freedom to practice my faith is more important than anything else.

If democracy/secularism is the prime directive(here: France)is hostile to my daily life, then that’s a problem. It is a good thing that there are 53 countries that have declared themselves to uphold Islamic faith as their prime directive where personal faith based issues can be protected. Why isn’t this a good thing??

[..]"France is an indivisible, secular, democratic and social Republic, guaranteeing that all citizens regardless of their origin, race or religion are treated as equals before the law and respecting all religious beliefs" states the Constitution of 1958.[..]

[elchangri]

You keep throwing that number around like you didn’t read my first comment.

If the west hadn’t destroyed/pillaged mena region things would be different. In the meantime, def a smart move for most muslims to go to the west and impose themselves. Life is better there, the place is super rich thanks to looted resources and kleptocratic foreign policy. Btw the west fertility rate is unsustainable. Someone’s gotta pay for those taxes! You should be happy

[selimthegrim]

Why impose? Is this just cycle of revenge? Is Algeria that f**ed? Was 1991-99 the fault of the French (besides their promotion of rampant illiteracy)

[elchangri]

All mena countries with more than 5 million muslims are fucked.

And actually yes it was in fact literally the President of France Francois Mitterand himself who gave the green light to the Algerian military to cancel the second round of elections after the Islamic party won the first by a landslide. Civil war ensued and along with it massive emigration towards France.

Do you see a pattern