[mtlmtlmtlmtl]

Oh, I've tried very hard to understand the views of people like Chalmers, Nagel and Goff. My only take-away is that it's just gatekeeping because science has made more advances on these questions in a few centuries than philosophy has in milennia. They want there to be a hard problem, because then they can keep talking about ill-defined problems all day with no progress in sight, publishing papers. Just happy to be workin'

[whittingtonaaon]

But science has never said anything about it at all. The subject matter of science is the externally observable and consciousness is an internal category.

[mtlmtlmtlmtl]

Are you just gonna keep repeating that or do you have an actual argument to support this claim?

[whittingtonaaon]

You’re right. I’m being repetitive. But it’s not really an argument. All I’m doing is saying the definition of science, at least as it’s historically been defined. The only bit of argument I have there is that I think by forgetting this definition we’ve wandered astray.