[carbadtraingood]

"Need". We don't need to do those things. We choose to do those things.

[melling]

Keep telling yourself that right up until all the damage is permanent.

“If only the people in the Amazon chose not to burn down the forest for cattle”

“If only China and India didn’t burn so much coal”

“If only people didn’t eat so much fish”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons

[carbadtraingood]

What? I'm not sure what you are saying... We don't need to eat beef, both here and in Brazil. We choose to, in both places. We, locally, need to regulate harder and push harder globally to protect things.

[melling]

I’m saying that “If only we didn’t eat beef” is not a workable solution.

What’s important is that people realize they are proposing solutions that sound good but are not helpful.

Half the Amazon will be torched before you realize this?

[carbadtraingood]

Ok, so you are saying current and increasing beef consumption rates are fine?

I'm saying we should price the externalities into the cost of beef. What other solution is there?