Eh? I did my best to understand what you wrote. I honestly found your language difficult to parse.
This is obviously a complex topic with a lot of strongly held views. For me personally it's a rare case where I haven't yet developed firm views of my own.
FWIW, I'm not particularly happy with the way this sub-thread has gone, but I found it stimulating at least. YMMV.
You’re capable of more, we’re capable of more, this entire thread of yours is beneath us all.