[hourago]

> "protecting the most useless employees from being fired"

Unions don't do that, that's pure propaganda. Unions bargain for more free time, better pay, better work conditions (healthier, safer).

[SketchySeaBeast]

It also plays into the whole phenomena where many people for some reason would rather ensure one person is punished than a hundred helped.

[scifibestfi]

> Unions bargain for more free time, better pay, better work conditions (healthier, safer)

They do that AND make it hard to fire useless employees. It's a mixed bag, as all organizational layers are.

[juve1996]

Meh, useless employees will be there either way, union or not. That's just the world.

[jimbob45]

You're right - unions don't do that. They could be incorrectly perceived as doing that though, which is the comparison I'm making to "Americans love feeling like they're about to be rich". That's very clearly not how Americans feel and framing it that way is pure propaganda, as you put it.

[hourago]

Answering to the wrong comment? I never said that.

[kevin_thibedeau]

You might want to look into the practices of police unions. The inability to fire for bad behavior is part of why police forces turn into self serving monstrosities.