[georgehotz]

Ford has two issues:

1. Older cars have a lockout on steering after 10 seconds baked into the EPS firmware.

2. While newer cars don't have this lockout, adaptive cruise control (ACC) is only on high trims. Therefore low trims lack radar and (possibly) continuous duty brake controllers.

It should be better in a year or two when ACC is standard on Ford. ACC is standard on Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Stellantis, and Subaru, hence that's where the effort goes.

[sushid]

So if we want the optionality down the road and are choosing to drive a Ford, we should opt for the Co-Pilot360 Assist 2.0, correct?

[georgehotz]

Yes I believe you want the "Ford Co-Pilot360 Assist 2.0", not to be confused with the "Ford Co-Pilot 360™" or "Ford Co-Pilot 360™ 2.0" that won't work. The "Ford CoPilot 360 Assist+" is probably also okay, but might have the steering lockout. The "Ford Co-Pilot360™ Active 2.0 Prep Package" is good also, but it uses a different CAN message for steering after the update has been applied so YMMV.

And people say comma is confusing.

[cabyn]

Makes sense, thanks!