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Exactly. At some point I've had a conversation with most of the people who have filtered out of my life over this. I explained the reasons why I feel that Mark Zuckerberg is a sociopathic scumbag and his company is a cancer upon humanity, with the consequence that I won't knowingly use any product made by any company he owns or controls. For those who've filtered out of my life, their response was mostly along the lines of, "You said words, but I wasn't paying attention. I think Facebook is fun."

For most of the non-techie people in my life, I just communicate via common open protocols like SMS and email, things everyone can use easily. I do encourage people to try Matrix or Signal, but I certainly don't require those to communicate with me.

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Oh man. I used to be up to around 2014 the last asshole keeping a specific group in Facebook Messenger. It wasn't much of a problem for them because my friends were using FB for other stuff anyways, but they wanted to move to WhatsApp (now they're on Signal), an app I didn't really used.

What it took for me to bite the bullet and accept changing platforms was all of them agreeing on moving, and then one of them making a hard stance.

Sorry that wasn't much of an answer, but I guess my point is that you (EDIT: royal you, not talking to you directly) gotta find sympathetic people before you declare war on the ones that don't wanna change.

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I feel like various people are misunderstanding what I've written, so I'll try to clarify here.

> before you declare war on the ones that don't wanna change

I never "declared war" on anyone. I guess it's a lot easier having never used Facebook or Facebook products. I had a bad feeling about them from the very beginning and I've only ever felt more right in that feeling.

What would usually happen was, I'd meet someone new at some event, or maybe I'd be talking to a relative at a family gathering, and they'd say something like, "What's your Facebook? I'd like to add you to GroupX," and I'd reply that I didn't use Facebook. Then they'd follow up with, "You should join, it's <blah blah blah>," to which I'd politely explain why I won't ever join Facebook. And then one of two things would happen. Either they'd understand, and we'd exchange phone numbers or email addresses, or their eyes would glaze over and they'd find some excuse to walk away.

For the latter group, obviously we didn't interact online. For the former group, I'd text or email, and maybe they'd respond, and we'd have what I consider to be a normal relationship, or maybe they'd rarely or never respond, and we'd have no relationship. But in either case, I wasn't haranguing people not to use Facebook; I just wasn't using it. If not using Facebook meant I didn't have a relationship with someone, I was okay with that.

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Sorry, I didn't really assume you did anything, I was just speaking in general terms from my own experience being in the other side and was citing my friend's strategy.

I should have been clearer about that in my message, as I hate when people do that out of nowhere to me. Sorry.

[ColinWright]

> ... SMS and email, things everyone can use easily.

I beg to differ. I have direct personal experience of a number of people who find FB far, far easier to use than SMS or email. These are close family members in their 90s who don't know how to use email[0], and struggle to use SMSs because of sight problems and physical problems such as arthritis.

I pleased for you that you've been able to avoid people who use FB. I wish you'd grant me the courtesy of accepting that other people have a different experience from yours. I agree with you entirely that MZ is a sociopathic scumbag, but I am unwilling to lose contact with close family members, even though they literally use no communications method other than FB.

[0] Despite using FB they don't use email, because FB was set up for them by others, and they don't even know how to send or receive emails.