[SahAssar]

It's also popular with quite a few people who actually really like it and use it extensively, like me. We just tend not to be as vocal about it, probably because we don't need to be since that side is the default in all mainstream distros.

My main complaint about systemd is that most people don't use it enough. the units for sockets, timers, paths can be really powerful, and the sandboxing capabilities are great. They are just underused.

For basic system components like an init, network manager, etc. I'd also say that "Popular with people who don’t care" is great praise. It means that the people who don't want to care can choose to just not. Being great with people who do care is of course great too (and being popular with both is the best), but don't discount the value of a utility just being a utility.

[User23]

It wasn’t meant as a negative. As you clearly imply, people have built a trillion dollar company on it. You don’t have to care about the implementation details is basically Apple’s value proposition. E.g. I just want my airpods to work with all my stuff is a great user story.

And that’s not meant as a positive.

[cassianoleal]

> the sandboxing capabilities are great

I find the sandboxing to be very subpar. It works for the most basic use-cases but for anything with slightly more complicated requirements you're better off scripting your way through cgroups and namespaces.

[SahAssar]

Out of interest, got examples of those use-cases where it does not work?