[mythrwy]

The denial of reality has not been working very well so far for you. Neither has the craziness and hostility. At what point do you realize this? When you have no coastline and another 100K dead? Or will it take millions in big urban centers and widespread starvation?

[btilly]

Claims that I'm denying reality by someone who clearly is denying reality lacks any sting.

Examples.

- Offering well-sourced factual claims is not craziness.

- I'm not Ukrainian. I assure you that the California coast is not under any current threat.

- The military facts on the ground say that Russia cannot successfully take much more territory than it already has, and is extremely unlikely to be able to sustain what it has already taken.

- You are continuing to ignore the very real issues that I raised about genocide, etc.

Here is a fact for you to consider. Russia lost the Cold War in part because they didn't have the economy to be a counterweight to the USA. And economic trends have not gone in their favor. By GDP, Russia last year was only slightly more important than Florida. Thanks to sanctions, they are rapidly reducing in geopolitical importance. Not fast enough, I grant. But they aren't in a sustainable position.

[mythrwy]

You haven't raised any real issues about genocide, which is farcical claim on it's face. Also, I'd think this obvious, I wasn't talking to you when referring to the Ukrainian poster.

Also I would not be so sure the coast of California is safe if this keeps going.

"By GDP". Ya ya ya. Debt based scripts being passed around from VCs and overpriced healthcare are actually the same as resources in hand. That scheme totally isn't going to blow up and there are perpetual motion machines.

"Thanks to sanctions". More denial of reality.

[_kbh_]

The denial of reality? The reality is that Russia failed miserably at there noted first goal (regime change in Ukraine) suffered such a resounding loss that they withdrew there army from a axis of the war because they where being decimated.

Keep in mind Kyiv is only 50km from the border with Russia, and Russia failed to take it. This was has less been about a denial of reality and really been about seeing just how much a paper tiger the Russian armed forces are, turns out they are worse then pretty much anyone expected.

If Russia is doing so well why are there own propagandist and military complaining about how well Ukraine is striking there C&C and ammo depots?.

Why has Russia made so little gains in the past two weeks?.

Russia has already failed the only question is how badly there loses get before they leave.

That’s the question, how many dead Russian soldiers, how many more ships from the Black Sea fleet have to sink, how many more helicopters and planes have to crash and how many more tanks need to cook off?.

> Or will it take millions in big urban centers and widespread starvation?

The intentional starvation of urban centres certainly sounds like genocide to me, and you really have to ask yourself what kind of capable military acts like this?. Russian threatens because it’s there only option, if they could they would of taken Ukraine already.

[btilly]

Correction. Kyiv is about 380 km from the Russian border. You're thinking of the Belarusian border. But Belarus and Russia are not (yet) one country.

[_kbh_]

That’s a fair point, but given they invaded via Belarus the original point stands (albeit corrected).

[btilly]

True. But their logistics were also stretched, and sabotage of railroads by Belarusian railway workers stretched it even farther.

This compounded the general fact that logistical troubles are one of the great weaknesses of the Russian military machine.