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by deltaonenine 1434 days ago
Comical in the wrong sense, as in it's so bad it's funny.

The sub is more serious sounding and is a reflection of what the directors vision was. The english version is a mangling of what cowboy bebop was intended to be. Heck Faye in japanese sounds like a 25 year old woman while in the English version she sounds 40.

> also don't see why it needs to be like how normal people talk, because it's literally a cartoon.

You realize that anime is a genre in itself that can be as serious as anything else out there? Japanese voice actors are the best in the world. Cowboy bebop has comedic elements but the genre is NOT cartoon, it's science fiction noir with a jazzy element and kung fu. Nowhere in there is "cartoon."

I think you like cartoons. And you like the warped version of what cowboy bebop was not intended to be. Or is this really true? The ending was serious. Was the ending still cartoony to you?

Maybe it isn't that you like cartoons. Maybe you're just use to the voice actors and can see past the horrible acting. Or maybe you're not use to subs. Even so the fact that you can hear the bad acting from the dub shows that you're preference is less than objective. The Japanese version has definitively better acting.

I can't accept the dubbed versions level of acting in a regular Hollywood movie, so I can't accept it if it's in an anime too. The bar doesn't lower for me just because it's an animation, but I guess it does for you.

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> Comical in the wrong sense, as in it's so bad it's funny.

Not really, comical in the funny sense, like I find it entertaining.

> You realize that anime is a genre in itself that can be as serious as anything else out there?

I didn't say that it can't be serious, many cartoons are serious, but even if it's serious that doesn't mean it's like how normal people talk. You do know that Japanese people don't talk like people in anime?

> I think you like cartoons. And you like the warped version of what cowboy bebop was not intended to be. Or is this really true? The ending was serious. Was the ending still cartoony to you?

The serious parts of Cowboy Bebop came off as serious in the dub for me.

> The bar doesn't lower for me just because it's an animation, but I guess it does for you.

I think I just have different tastes to you, which you seem to find confusing or difficult to accept. I guess you would prefer a global hegemony of boring humans that have identical opinions to you, but that's not how it is.

I've watched a reasonable amount of anime, and I almost always prefer the dub, be it Cowboy Bebop, Welcome to the NHK, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Pokemon, even Steins;Gate

I like the Japanese cartoons as much as American ones, but I prefer the English dubs

>I didn't say that it can't be serious, many cartoons are serious, but even if it's serious that doesn't mean it's like how normal people talk. You do know that Japanese people don't talk like people in anime?

No, cartoons aren't drawn seriously. There can be serious moments with cartoons You can clearly a difference between how a cartoon is drawn and how a realistic anime is drawn.

Yes, you are correct most anime in japanese is highly stylized. Not cowboy bebop though. Cowboy bebop is realistic in terms of voice acting. Many more realistic animes that are more realistically drawn also drop the stylized voice acting.

>The serious parts of Cowboy Bebop came off as serious in the dub for me.

You've admitted there's bad acting. So basically you can take bad acting seriously.

>I think I just have different tastes to you, which you seem to find confusing or difficult to accept. I guess you would prefer a global hegemony of boring humans that have identical opinions to you, but that's not how it is.

There's a concept of bad taste and good taste. Nobody is explicitly saying it but this is what the discussion is about. I am saying your taste is bad. You're saying cowboy bebop is a cartoon, so bad acting is acceptable and therefore you have good taste.

>I've watched a reasonable amount of anime, and I almost always prefer the dub, be it Cowboy Bebop, Welcome to the NHK, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Pokemon, even Steins;Gate

Yeah. I can see that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDtYYrcByNE the person who made this video agrees with you on NGE.

> No, cartoons aren't drawn seriously.

What does this mean? There are a lot of cartoons that have a huge amount of effort put into them.

> You can clearly a difference between how a cartoon is drawn and how a realistic anime is drawn.

Are you 12? People in Japanese cartoons do not look and act like humans either.

> You've admitted there's bad acting. So basically you can take bad acting seriously.

Of course I can take bad acting seriously, can't you? That sounds like a you problem.

> There's a concept of bad taste and good taste. Nobody is explicitly saying it but this is what the discussion is about. I am saying your taste is bad. You're saying cowboy bebop is a cartoon, so bad acting is acceptable and therefore you have good taste.

Well, I think your taste is bad, so I don't see what there is to do other than to give up against each other. Again, you aren't going to prove that my taste is bad lol

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDtYYrcByNE the person who made this video agrees with you on NGE.

I actually prefer the Netflix dub