[mgkimsal]

> It's such a cesspool of fraud now that I can't figure out how to find the honest people.

now? I've heard similar horror stories going back years. Perhaps you were lucky in that you got more positive than negative out of it earlier?

[smt88]

It's very possible I was lucky. I also only worked with people who were willing to appear on video, had long work history, and didn't do more than a single job at a time.

Recently I had thought that maybe prices had gone up, and I was just not paying enough for the honest, individual contractors, but even at $120+/hr, we were getting people misrepresenting their skills or trying to trick us with subcontractors.

[mgkimsal]

The few success stories I've known from upwork have been people who managed to find one sharp person, then went direct with them ASAP, and left upwork behind.