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by belltaco 1433 days ago
You violated Reddit's self promotion rules by only posting your own content to that subreddit multiple times and are railing against the mods for doing their job?

https://www.reddit.com/wiki/selfpromotion

And you're posting the complain on HN which also has a rule against it:

>Please don't use HN primarily for promotion. It's ok to post your own stuff occasionally, but the primary use of the site should be for curiosity.

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Oh nice.

> This page is no longer updated.

> For more up to date information go here: https://www.reddithelp.com

This is all I can find there:

https://www.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360043504051-Wh...

That would be about admin and not subreddit mods. The general problem with subreddit mods is they can do whatever they want and there's no possibility of accountability or ensuring the rules are applied fairly. Admin don't care what mods do unless it blows up on the news.

as a mod of some niche medium engagement/high quality subs, I still link to the self-promo guidelines because while they're no longer updated, they give the clearest example towards how not to use Reddit.

Mods have full discretion though, that's the gist of this entire thread. As someone with a 16 year old reddit account I've seen a lot of bad moderators though.

Well, yeah. Generally I've learned to just not care what happens on reddit. Moderators do whatever they want and jerk you around if you ask sincere questions. It's not worth pretending or expecting anything else. And it's not like mods are paid either, so you can't really fault anyone because nobody really knows the reality of everything going on in the subreddit. It's just how it works.
Maybe this would be better messaged at @dang, but regarding:

> Please don't use HN primarily for promotion. It's ok to post your own stuff occasionally, but the primary use of the site should be for curiosity.

Are there more specific guidelines regarding this? This account is directly linked to my real name/identity, so I use it for posting comments that I'm okay with signing my identity to, and so far have only submitted content of my own creation. It seems that linking my true identity to publicizing something that someone else can change to say whatever they want, is a poor choice, so I have a separate anonymous account that I use to submit articles from the internet at large.

I don't think that what I'm doing is outside the intended spirit of the rule, but I may be wrong here and would love to know if so.

I feel like other technology subreddits I follow (including /r/ruby) have mostly only people posting their own stuff.

I don't know if the rule is still commonly an enforced rule on other parts of reddit though? I am sure there are redditors who don't know it though, based on /r/ruby.

(I post other people's stuff to /r/ruby, but I think this is maybe rare on /r/ruby? Once someone actually got mad at me for posting his article, like I was trying to steal the karma for the article he wrote, or posting it in a way or at a time that wasn't of his chosing and I should have let him post it himself as the author! He obviously did not know about this "rule"!)

Is it normal to get perma-banned from a subreddit on reddit, without first being warned once for violating a rule? (I know for a fact that does not happen on HN, people don't get their accounts banned without a single warning from dang, at least not for something like violating a self-promotion rule).

> Is it normal to get perma-banned from a subreddit on reddit

Generally, yes.

I prefer to use temporary bans myself but there are a lot of mods who use the permaban first and then gauge your reaction when you modmail to ask why you've been banned.

Also, tons of really bad mods on the site. No one disputes this.

> and then gauge your reaction

What sort of a reaction do they want?

Mostly, this makes me glad I use reddit as little as I do.

well, it's not an approach I would prefer, but here's an example:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ModerationMediation/comments/v7xhu5...

> Many subreddits start with a permaban just to test how the rule breaker responds. Are they reasonable, contrite, and willing to promise not to break the rules again? This can be a great filter as to whether or not the person should be allowed to participate in the future, or is most likely going to be a headache in the future.