Does a password manager and browser extension not fix this? I use 1password on iOS and almost never have to copy and paste or (worse) type a password in. I just FaceID then pick the credentials I want to use to log in and the extension fills in the relevant form fields.
> It’s just like anti-CSRF tokens, lots of edge cases and it’s hard to get right.
Do you have an example of the problems you've encountered? This is normally a turn-on-and-forget setting which is only slightly harder if you're using JavaScript to submit forms.
> I don’t have a pw manager on my mobile device nor do I want one, getting a 35+ char into an input field on my phone is a PITA.
What's your threat model for using long passwords but not using a password manager? I can understand why you might not want to store it on a cloud service even if it is encrypted but local storage is going to be more secure than entering it by hand if for no reason other than that it's harder to shoulder surf and harder to phish.