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I would agree with carbadtraingood and your characterization and therefore agree that MSNBC is liberal leaning, which in the US might as well be left-leaning. I think it was a misunderstanding of definitions. Thank you both for your replies.

[DiggyJohnson]

Cheers, and I agree. These sorts of conversations are most valuable in reminding us that these sorts of discussions do not need to devolve to stubborn disagreement. Happy days