[darkcha0s]

The is little intersection between people who do frontend development and people who are comfortable at that level with Java.

Considering the tooling for almost any frontend framework is leaps and bounds ahead any of those two frameworks, it's a no brainer why no one uses it, in my opinion.

[oldjavacoder]

The fact that the pile of tools required to get a web to do anything useful is such a terrible mess including Angular and React is why I'm in full dismay that they are used by otherwise intelligent developers at all.