[sph]

I still do not understand why there's a lot of focus on Germany without mentioning Italy.

They have voted in the 80s to ban nuclear power as well, and now energy costs are through the roof. It will be an awful, expensive winter over there importing French nuclear electricity and Russian gas.

AFAIK there is no movement whatsoever to reconsider that referendum. Last I checked Italians are very much against it.

[nivenkos]

Italy can get gas from Algeria IIRC - like Spain does from Nigeria too.

But the referendum doesn't matter right now anyway, there is no way to rush through electrification of domestic heating and industry and build functional nuclear power plants in ~4 months.

So the only question is what to do regarding gas sources or shortages.

[riffraff]

Italy also voted recently to ban nuclear _again_ after it had been allowed a second time. There are some people in favor, but it's unlikely to get reversed any time soon.

FWIW, France is currently importing energy from Germany, and will be doing that until the winter, because they shut down many reactors for maintenance, the futures for electricity in France were > €1200/MWh last week.

[sph]

> Italy also voted recently to ban nuclear _again_ after it had been allowed a second time.

The first referendum was 6 months after Chernobyl, the second one 3 months after Fukushima. No wonder the outcome was overwhelmingly against it. Demagogy in its purest form.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_Italy

[throwaway0x7E6]

holy fucking shit. will consumers really end up paying 1.2 euro for a kWh?