I like to say that the difference between Republicans and Democrats in the US is that Republicans break the law and Democrats subvert it.
It's no wonder that the largely liberal audience of HN supports the subversion route the US takes compared to the more brutal but vastly more honest way the Chinese do it.
It's no wonder that the largely liberal audience of HN supports the subversion route the US takes compared to the more brutal but vastly more honest way the Chinese do it.