[bko]

I think there's a difference between a private company having my data and an adversarial government. The company has a clear motive, profit. They're lawful neutral. An adversarial government may be chaotic evil. I don't know why this isn't obvious.

Wasn't everyone freaking out just a few years ago when Russian government was manipulating people with political groups on Facebook? And that's even with Facebook's earnest effort to prevent these things. With this company, there's a direct tie in with an adversarial government.

Yes, ideally I don't want anyone to have my data, but lets not pretend Zuck and CCP are the same thing

[Ozzie_osman]

> Wasn't everyone freaking out just a few years ago when Russian government was manipulating people with political groups on Facebook?

Yes, if by everyone you mean Americans, because their country was the target. There are many countries where media has been manipulated by the CIA, too.

[arroz]

If you think Russia has only meddled with American election, you are crazy

[Miner49er]

I'm the opposite. I would much rather have the CCP have my data then a US based company like FB. Unless I travel to China, what are the CCP going to do to the average American with their data? Whereas, in the US, the data could be used in the future to prosecute me for my political views or whatever with law changes.

[arroz]

The CCP can try to instigate chaos

Can try to instigate hate

Extremism

Cause democracy to fall

Make people feel hopeless in a possible future war, and just give up before trying so they can achieve their goals with ease

[bko]

The CCP could be actively trying to get you hate your neighbor and spread disinformation. That could be a byproduct of either group, but it is more likely to be an explicit goal of CCP. Here's a gem from the WHO in January 2020. This was almost certainly known to be a lie to the CCP based on their actions at the time

> Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China.

https://twitter.com/who/status/1217043229427761152

[Schroedingersat]

Yes, private companies like blackwater, shell, bp, dutch east india, coca cola, nestle, amazon, or facebook never participate in fascist propaganda campaigns or organize coups, hire mercenaries to kill unionizing (or just competing) workers, murder, or steal. And facebook didn't promote lies and propaganda during the pandemic at all /s

The CCP is at least very indirectly accountable to their own people and holds their country's long term interests in mind even if they do not care about the people and hold the usual abhorrent views of authoritarians towards minorities. This is extremely evil, but pales in comparison to an unaccountable corporate entity with what little human oversight it has steered by a combination of narcissists, neofuedalists and literal apocalypse cultist theocrats.

[gsatic]

Cool pov. Take my upvote. But of course never going to happen. Tribal instincts, schizmogenisis etc

[pyuser583]

According to my very old Players Handbook, leaders of tyrannical states are lawful evil.

“Lawful” or “chaotic” relate to whether the character embrace order.

[klibertp]

Also people who move based on only their own profit are neutral evil. In other words: just evil.