[bogomipz]

>"AFAIK, we have been in a recession since 2008. IMO we never really got out of it."

That's complete nonsense. The National Bureau of Economic Research, the body which officially declares recessions in the US, defines a recession as "a significant decline in economic activity spread across the economy, lasting more than a few months, normally visible in real GDP, real income, employment, industrial production, and wholesale-retail sales."[1]

Aside from the 2020 pandemic dive, there has been positive GDP growth every year since 2008.[2]

[1] https://www.nber.org/news/business-cycle-dating-committee-an...

[2] https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/gdp-...