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by ncmncm 1436 days ago
There are two ways one may interpret "American exceptionalism".

The first is that, being a rich country and democratically elected, our standards for fair and ethical behavior are higher than others'. We can afford to be generous and to be kind. Our declaration of universal human rights means we stick up for rights not just in our own territory, but for all our human sisters and brothers, extending due process to all, even those under the boot of foreign enemy governments, and aiding movements toward democracy, freedom, and recognition of inherent human rights and dignity.

The other is that, being so fucking rich and powerful, the rules don't apply to us, and we are justified in doing anything, no matter how harmful, anywhere it gets something for companies based here or people holding power here at the moment.

You can guess which way administrations who have promoted "American exceptionalism" jumped. I don't think I need to trot out examples, but it seems notable that Russia copied the verbiage that US published in support of its unsupportable invasion of Iraq when they invaded Ukraine. The US demanding International Criminal Court attention to Russian war crimes, while warning that any attempt at prosecuting well-known American war criminals would evoke military action, is particularly rich.

Arranging for Nobel Peace Prizes to be issued to war criminals is a neat touch.

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> but it seems notable that Russia copied the verbiage that US published in support of invading Iraq, when they invaded Ukraine.

I don't think it is notable that Russia copied the verbiage of the US, this seems like a logical fallacy. Bad people will always quote the most powerful people to try and make a point, or try and weaken them. It doesn't mean it's good, it is just an irrelevant part of the argument.

You seem to miss the point that there was no legitimate justification for invading Iraq. We invaded Iraq because certain people temporarily in authority wanted to invade Iraq, for personal, petty, and cynical reasons.

Russians cribbing from that was obviously meant ironically. Missing that point is telling.