[barbazoo]

> If your annual driving distance is low and your grid is relatively dirty, a range of EVs have more CO2 emissions/mile than conventional internal combustion vehicles.

Right now. I'm sure you know but the beauty of this is that those cars' emissions can be reduced without changing anything about the car simply by changing the fuel used to generate electricity which can (and has to) happen in the future.

[mountainriver]

Yes this is a key point lost on many when I hear this argument. It doesn’t mean to not buy an EV, it’s still a great idea, we just need to do more work on our power sources

[Robotbeat]

Within a decade from when my Volt was manufactured to when I sold it, the carbon emissions per kWh dropped from 500g/kWh to 372g/kWh. Gasoline emissions have not dropped and might even be getting worse as we have to reach further to get nonconventional oil from tar sands, etc.

[acchow]

Those cars' emissions can also be made worse over time without changing anything about the car simply by changing the fuel used to generate electricity....

Such as Germany currently decommissioning nuclear plants...

[barbazoo]

That didn't stop Germany from reducing its oil, coal and gas consumption though. Those reduced over time or at least stayed the same while renewables steadily increased.

Source: https://www.cleanenergywire.org/factsheets/germanys-energy-c...

[dieortin]

The most dirty a grid can be is just the same as an ICE car, and even then the EV would still be way more efficient.