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by breadloaf 1443 days ago
I'm always a bit baffled by the amount of pro-renewables comments on HN. Is energy storage solved problem, or are people in northern latitudes going to freeze to death during winter?
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Winter is the time of the year most energy is produced by wind: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Germany_Monthly_Elec...

It's also not really an issue that nuclear is free from. It's very difficult for nuclear to follow demand and it is not as reliable as can be seen with France's current struggles.

"Green" is an extremely politicized term. The nuclear aversion has nothing to do with rational thinking and everything to do with emotions. And since most people have emotions, you can get highly educated people to be "green" extremists. These people don't balance the equation with the suffering of the poor people (which rising energy prices absolutely bring to the table), and secondary effects of green extremism like shrinking economies and inflation is not something on their radar, all that matters is that there is less CO2 being produced (or so they think), everything else is secondary and temporary.

All of that would be fine, there will always be extremists (and to a degree, we need them) and if you seriously believe in the cause, more power to you...

... the real problem is that left wing has adopted this extreme green position as one of its core elements. Now all the left wingers have to adhere to green extremism, otherwise they're not part of the team. In 2022, it is not acceptable for any member of any left leaning party to be climate moderate.

The right wing has abortion and guns, the left wing has green extremism and critical theory. Try to be openly anti-gun or pro-choice on the right wing. Try to be openly climate-moderate or anti-woke on the left wing... see what happens. THAT's the problem. Nuance in politics went completely out of the window in the last decade. It's either extreme A or extreme B. And the other side is not only wrong, it is evil.

you either have wind or you have solar. most of the time in a country as big as france there is always a place where you have tons of either one. storage is only needed for spikes, which btw. is also needed for nuclear (or you can use gas). btw. your argument is the one I think is so stupid from the pro nuclear crowd, as if peak nuclear is a solved problem. (p.s. it isn't no country in the world does use nuclear for peaks not even france.)