| > Even if they did, that's still not a good argument. It is not argument; it is the reality on the ground. > I don't find this compelling enough to give up everything I enjoy about the iPhone. I don't believe you will have to give up anything on your iPhone. We will just have to agree to disagree, until this future comes to pass, if at all. > Most likely scenario is that people will have 2-5 app stores installed because these companies have enough pull that they can get a user to click through a few buttons. I disagree. It's far more involved to get someone to sign up for another platform and to manage another user account, than it is to simply download an app for the platform they are already on. Seems like we are at an impasse until we actually see what third party app stores are like and how popular they are. Also, this regulation doesn't mean that Apple can't make activating third party app store/sideloading behavior a guarded one with multiple hoops to jump through. It would definitely not be as seamless as you claim. > Companies such as Spotify or Netflix will move to a third-party store so they don't have to pay Apple for using the platform. Not if Apple keeps cutting sweetheart deals with them, as they and Google already have. They have not shifted to third party/independent app stores on Android. Furthermore, you are once again overlooking how difficult it is to herd users off of existing platforms for no good reason. Even in the arena of games, where gamers are used to platform exclusivity, there is a lot of friction against the proliferation of new games stores from the likes of EA, UbiSoft, Epic, etc. Store runners have to woo players with free or discounted content. Netflix and Spotify, curiously enough, are also platforms facing issues with user growth and retention. So along with Facebook, these are three platforms you've cited that have less capacity to lure users to a third party app store than it would seem. If anything this would be good news for Apple Music and Apple TV+, as users switch over rather than deal with another app store. > You might believe that to be fair I don't believe that is fair. I believe that is a complete slippery slope worst-case doomsday scenario that is far less probable than it is held up to be. > I have never stated that Apple was a minor player. Then you agree that their behavior is worth subjecting to antitrust investigation. Thank you. > In fact, Apple's model of locked-down software and tight integration is so superior to open source software that even you use the iPhone. I'm not actually a FOSS advocate. I use Safari on macOS not only because of past and present professional obligations, but because I am comfortable with it. But I also believe that FOSS folks and other hobbyists deserve to be accorded the ability to tinker on iOS, as they have historically done so with other Apple products. Because it is right. And because it is interesting. > If third-party stores were a breath of fresh air you wouldn't be here complaining that you need them on yet another device. F-Droid exists on Android, which is great. What is wrong wanting one for iOS? > I'm not interested in discussing it further because there's no new information being presented that I haven't already considered. Very well. I have made my case and you have made yours. You have advanced hypotheticals that I have found wanting, hurled calumny that I have endured; now let reality take its course. |