[mistermann]

Sure, I realize all this, but my point is that recommendations of what we should do tend to be excessively abstract, at least in my opinion.

"What "let's roll" resolves to is principled sacrifice for the greater good" is all well and good, but what does it look like physically?

And, as you note: what if we do come up with a viable strategy, but substantial portions of the population are not interested in going along? It happened once, I'd feel extremely comfortable wagering top dollar that it will happen again - does anyone have a plan for this? "Sacrifice!" seems rather underpowered.

[dredmorbius]

Stop. Burning. Fossil. Fuels.

[mistermann]

And if mother nature says "no", what do you counter with? More rhetoric? More democracy?

As the saying goes: "if wishes were horses, beggars would ride".

Sometimes success takes hard work and skillful thinking, this is well demonstrated by history. And time's a wasting.