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by pizza234 1448 days ago
> I've never gotten why so many people think that the physical act of pulling or not pulling makes so much difference.

By pulling the level, one is intentionally killing a person, to save five. In more general terms, a life is taken away for the greater good of society.

A foundation of societies (modern ones, and I guess, some more than others) is that taking a life away has highly specific restrictions, which are usually justified by the person doing harmful acts (representing a danger to other people). To put it in another way, any citizen has the guarantee that, unless they do something harmful, they're safe. It's a contract between the citizen and the society.

By pulling the lever to save one, the contract is broken. To be consistent with the societal principle, it should be the person on the alternate track to decide whether the lever should be pulled, not an observer.

(The above reasoning is based on a very generic vision of the law. If anybody has some details, they're very welcome :))

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Wasn't the contract already broken when six people ended up tied to train tracks?
Yes, it was broken, but by someone else, not me. I am not at (moral) fault for someone else breaking the contract.

But if I pull the lever (or pushed a fat man onto the track that would halt the train), I am the one who is responsible for the resulting death, which makes me the one who broke the contract.

That's the major dilemma here, because pulling the lever is the utilitarian-correct choice that saved more lives, but whoever pulled the lever went from being innocent to being a murderer.

Interesting. So, in a way, by pulling the lever to save the majority, you’re making two sacrifices for the greater good⎯a life and your innocence.
Interestingly the website poll indicates two thirds of people would not pull the lever to have the train run over themselves to save five people. So if you ask the guy on the other track, he seems unlikely to assent to pull the lever in time to save the other people.
Well, right now a surgical team are able to kill you and transplant your organs to save five people. Do you consent?

(Do you 'pull the lever' and instruct the surgical team to kill one stranger to save five strangers?)

No, but I almost never pulled the lever anyway and it cost 80 souls to "solve philosophy". It was almost more but I didn't quite save the sentient robots because I didn't believe they were really sentient.