[picsao]

Straw man, germany has physical speed limits on most of the Autobahn. Meaning the rightmost lane is usually filled with trucks, leaving one or two lanes, were the aging populations slowest drivers create a upper speed limits (usually 120). And even those struggle with those slow Netherlands caravans. Your habbits are not a borthright to be a traffic obsticle in another country.

[atoav]

I said driving on the German Autobahn (I live in Germany btw.) is more stressful than driving on a same looking street that has a speed limit of say 130 like in Austria. Traffic flow is better when all people go at similar speed. Safety is better, pollution is better, noise is better and it makes not that much difference.

Given the fact that air resistance is increasing quadratically with speed, that fast cars are loud, that accidents cost everybody in a socity time and money and that we have even more to expect in form of climate change not having a speed limit seems like a very radical political position. It doesn't seem radical, because it has been "normal" for a long time, but it is forcefully irrational.

Nothing against a little bit of irrationality. I am jumping into the sea or lakes from cliffs, bridges and cranes. But this is a danger to myself and not to others. Also I check beforehand how deep the water is.

[pas]

many people do go 160+ in Austria, then hit the brakes when the speedcam approaches, then speed up again.

that said the problem is, according to my observations, is that the German highways are full, there are more cars, so it's harder to go at almost any speed. so yes, it's more stressful.

(and just to mention something else stressful on German highways: Hochzeit Korsos! we had the pleasure to see one very close this year on the ring around München)

[wink]

yeah, as someone living close to the Austrian border and being over there very often... every single trip every nth car overtakes me when I'm going 130 as allowed. You just need to be local and know where you'll have to pay a fine. Depends on which of theirs though, the one from Salzburg to Italy isn't so bad, but the others are.

[omnimus]

No need to be local just install Waze and you will see all cameras and policemen in the app.

[wink]

I wasn't complaining, I'm completely happy to go 130 - just stating the fact that there are more locals speeding than Germans. And the "fun" fact is that on certain days there are actually more cars with German plates on their Autobahn than Austrian ones.. or certainly a 2:1 ratio at most.