[ctdonath]

You want more evening light, you get up earlier.

I want more morning light. Can't stand getting up when it's night, don't care when it gets dark later in the day.

How about we just agree that "noon" means "sun straight overhead" (within a half hour for time zone position) and each get up as each sees fit, with no thrashing over forcing strangers to adhere to an unwanted deviation at arbitrary dates.

[philwelch]

Not everyone can just roll into work, lunch, dinner, meetings, dates whenever the hell they feel like it. People have to coordinate their schedules.

[ctdonath]

YOU try "coordinating schedules" with a couple of toddlers who now are up and raring to go at 5:00AM, thanks to a conspiracy of complete strangers to #^*& with my clocks.

As of this morning I hate DST 10x more than ever.