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by danuker 1440 days ago
The dithered images are fun, but I thought PNG is optimized for large continuous areas of an identical color (or pattern?). Is JPG or WebP not better?
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I tried to do a comparison once.

It was approximate, because I didn't have the original images (Or I only had one), but IMO JPEG looks better per pound of bits than dithering. At the same bitrate as their dithered images, it looks a bit crummy, but you can still pick up details that the dithering loses.

They won't admit it's for the aesthetic. If dithering looked as good bit-for-bit as JPEG, independent of aesthetic, nobody would have invented or adopted JPEG.

Am I reading it wrong that they're not doing this for file size but for processing power reasons?

I'd be curious (really, not being snarky) if you tested for that as well.

EDIT: nope, I'm wrong, they say they're doing it for bandwidth.

They would have to admit to transmitting more data (thus using more carbon) for aesthetics. That would undermine their blog and make some of their posts look very hypocritical.
I sent them a email about that (to their comments email) and never got a response.
They're hypersensitive to suggestions that they might be wrong about something.
Do you have context for this?
In previous discussions about the site/posts on the site on HN I remember the site owner getting very butthurt in threads over criticism. I don't have specific links however. Just anecdata.
You surprised? They serve (in the "about" page) one big page for everything, with everything (80% of it user comments, I noted nearby), and their motto is

«radically reduce the energy use associated with accessing our content»!

Well, when a guy is hypersensitive and defensive about being wrong about things, he tends to remain wrong about them.
Is this a whoosh situation where the low tech comes into play?
I don't know what you mean.
> WebP

No to webp as it's a still vp8 video frame meaning an image codec is burdened with a huge video codec dependency.

Have you not tried?

A 4-cols PNG can be halfish a JPEG.

Of course, a ~10% quality JPEG can be one fifthish of the original, and present more apparent information than the PNG - but it will look dirty.