[ggm]

in unix, xattr and setfattr drive me crazy. As a PM, I do sometimes realize that the UX drive here would be "lets just remove these extended attributes, people hate them" instead of thinking about what they do, and how people (mis)understand them.

I think Android permissions are like xattr. its the noise behind chmod, it shows up in odd ways like when you can't move or delete a setuid file, or in ls -<flags> contexts if you tickle it right. its the nitty gritty, the details. Not "does this s/w respect my privacy" but "of 100+ distinct attributes, data items about 'me', can I atomically grant/deny access or apply some conditionality to them"

So I think the same thing about AWS Privs. My god, theres a million of the suckers. Do I want Amazon to simply remove the pane? God no. I just want to understand it better.

Why can't google "do both" and have a path to see these, but feature-parity with Apple and simplify it on the surface?

[pixl97]

Heh, that first time you work with an immutable file.

[ggm]

That first time you think you've upgraded your BSD operating system and three mysterious files refuse to go away.. which is precisely how I first found this, as you say, immutable file problem.