[theplumber]

Am I do only one who hates frameworks that need a cli to get started?

[tusharsoni]

ha, add me to that list :) I think it's fine if CLIs are optional and I've tried to do that with Copper. Of course, your initial setup will be longer without scaffolding so it's not a great first time developer experience

[EToS]

Me too, although if its a lightweight helper you can ditch down the line its normally not an issue