[paskozdilar]

> You also didn’t give any reason why we should care about “pollution” more than human life.

The only reason anyone cares about pollution is because it endangers human life.

> Human life is beautiful and good.

I'm sure it is, if you only focus on the pleasantries.

[dhzhzjsbevs]

> The only reason anyone cares about pollution is because it endangers human life.

This is simply not true. There are many people who view humans like a plague or a cancer. That matrix line didn't come from nowhere.

These people don't stop to think their feelings through to a conclusion.

They don't even realise it but when you view humanity that way you're essentially advocating for genocide.

> I'm sure it is, if you only focus on the pleasantries.

You can see beauty in all forms of life. It doesn't have to be a pleasantry.

Part of what gives humananity its beauty is its complexity and contradictions. All that yin and yang stuff. You don't have the good without the bad.

[bheadmaster]

You don't really have any argument for humanity beyond "I think it's pretty".

Admittedly, neither do those who view humanity as a plague. But then again, I'd tell the same to them too.

Of course, you're entitled to your opinions and preferences, but it seems to me as if you're trying to represent your opinion (that human life is beautiful and should be preserved) as some kind of objective truth - going so far to claim that the opposite side is advocating for genocide. The anti-natalist movement also considers humans a plague, but doesn't advocate killing of any kind - only voluntary abstinence from procreation. Does that count as "genocide" in your book?

Personally, I don't consider humanity beautiful in itself, I've seen many kinds of evil that humans are capable of doing, and how much of it just passes with impunity. I think that every human being is inherently self-serving and will do everything within their power to assert their own will, and that it's only the fear of punishment that keeps them "good" and in check. If you were to magically remove all punishments from society, humans would start doing all kinds of horrible things, just because they can. Any and all kinds of "altruism" are either indirect self-benefit (e.g. helping friends in need makes it more likely they will help you when in need) or some kind of mental imprint from the past (e.g. being punished in childhood for selfishness can make humans become overly altruistic in order to avoid the inner critical voice).

So when you say "humanity is beautiful and should be preserved", all you actually say is "I feel good when I think about humans, therefore they should be around". That is pure self-interest.