[willcipriano]

Those cars produce less carbon than your vacation halfway across the globe and aren't used purely for recreational purposes.

It seems like carbon really isn't your issue here.

[kstrauser]

I haven't gone on a distant vacation in many years, so not I'm not sure why you're bringing that up. But yes, a suburban-dwelling, daily commuter Expedition is absolutely a recreational choice, and an irresponsible one at that.

[willcipriano]

> But yes, a suburban-dwelling, daily commuter Expedition is absolutely a recreational choice, and an irresponsible one at that.

Just like air travel. If making one unaffordable is positive, why not the other?

[pessimizer]

Who said cheap airfares were good?