[hans1729]

The SPD brands itself as social, pro worker, peaceful, pragmatic and economically-focused all at the same time. They woo young voters, while their core clientel is >65. They actively make policy that works against the youth (serving their main voters, which are old), while presenting themselves as the good guys to the youth.

From my point of view, this makes them pure evil, much more so than the other parties. Yes, all the parties play the power game, but not all of them have the insane level of audacity that the SPD demonstrates again and again, in every election since I'm old enough to pay attention.

[solarkraft]

I know few young people who take them that seriously. My sentiment of them being a "CDU lite" (much more conservative and much less social than they act, generally not very progressive) appears to be widely shared.

In their defense: They are the lesser evil. Which seems to basically be all that they run on nowadays (it's how Scholz became chancellor).

[sgift]

Which anti-youth policies do you specifically have in mind here? The SPD has done various things which were e.g. actively harmful for workers, but I don't really remember something which could be thought of as against the youth.

[coffeebeanHH]

> since I'm old enough to pay attention First of all... Hhhhh I like that!

Yes I agree that the socialists lift themself way higher that they should. I think the age of their politics and voters is an effect of inheritance over decades. But it's still not a thing only the socialists have. The right wing sort of has the same. Specially the christians. I wouldn't even say it's a very evil thing. There are young people that are interested in politics, that's good and important. But it's by far not the most of them. I agree that it's not very smart to pretend to be a youngster or doing politics for the future generations while not even asking them what they want and need or stepping aside to let them fix their problems on their own.

And honestly Scholz is very suspect and unsympathetic to me. He seemed wrong when he was major of hamburg and still I don't trust him a dime. He literally is the result of being the least garbage. At least in what the public can see. But still I don't see how the others are much different from fooling the people. The christians are corrupt, afd is a nazi party based on denial. The "democrats" only care about their own wealth. Green has internal issues with their concurring members and the deep red just burried themselves over the last years and is in huge inner conflicts as well.

None of them has the motivation or will to change. It's just about getting the votes to talk bad about others and don't change a shit. Would be good to do a 80% flush. Get new and young politicians in the parliament and keep a fifth of the old ones to show the new ones around and explain how some stuff works.

[numerik_meister]

I could make a very strong similar argument for the Greens. They are basically light-conservatives, but they brand themselves on the left side of the spectrum.