[Dan_Sylveste]

>This would make you more honest, and also open your eyes to some effects you're not currently seeing with the overly moralistic framework, such as that the "owning" might be overly broad and end up making people who previously had no problem with the group in question gradually resent it more and more as it intrude further into their life year after year.

You're not going to find disagreement from me here, I think that some aspects of the pride parade are probably detrimental to the acceptance of LGBTetc amongst regular members of society.

There seems to be a subgroup that enjoys showcasing what can fairly honestly (as in, not in a pearl-clutching kind of way) be described as deviant behaviour and I don't think it's going to work out in the favour of LGBTetc in the long term.

[Banana699]

>There seems to be a subgroup that enjoys showcasing what can fairly honestly (as in, not in a pearl-clutching kind of way) be described as deviant

Correct. Furthermore, Pride is optimized for this group, meaning that it's an inherently meaningless celebration that rewards novelty purely for novelty's sake. Since deviance is novel, that's the direction that pulls.

So this group, regardless of numbers, is dominant. If you attend pride parades, try talking about those views. See for yourself how native is deviance to the LGBT thing, the movement that doesn't like the words "respectable" and "normal" and views them as slurs.

[Dan_Sylveste]

That seems to be a feature of US pride parades, perhaps originating from the Folsom Street Fair, I remember reading about it somewhere. The EU ones - which are the ones I have personal experience of - don't have much of that sort of thing.